1. I'm still trying to decide too. The fabric is sooooo comfortable. I think my hesitation is the different shape when I'm used to fitted pants like high times and WUs. What are you hesitant about with the grooves?

    2. That is my #1 reason. It's a different cut from what I'm used to. I do think I'll keep them but it depends on if something else comes along in the next week that I might want more.

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